Unrecorded Phantom Gems

violater

I think the white rails came from here:
The station has grooves on the rails, so I might safely estimate that it came from here.

A safer estimate would be from here, but with that Plarail logo and red TOMY logo, there is a good chance that the set was made in Japan or Thailand.

The grey rails are still under investigation.

violater

We all know that the existing phantom gem: Melody D-51, exists.
But Plarail Museum has stated that it was SL-02, but we have finally seen a SL-06 Melody D-51, and SL-06 is nowhere found in the museum. We will find out what really is SL-02 then.

violater

Sorry, these were supposed to be here. I wasn't paying attention.

violater

Vio wrote
Disclaimer: Images are not mine.

Not a vehicle, sorry to disappoint. Ranch Set, 1970. is not recorded in the Plarail Museum, and it has surfaced to social media just yesterday after 50 odd years.

It disappeared after only 5 months in 1970, and no records are found anywhere. To get this catalogue image, you need to attend a venue during the early 1970s. Whats even more scary is that the house blocks from the phantom gem Project X theme made it's final appearance here. Also the beloved sakura trees that were described as a "mirage" made it's first and only appearance in this set. So it is a phantom gem within a phantom gem.

This is a very hidden Phantom Gem in Plarail and it is definitely even more rare than up to half of the recorded Phantom Gems. It is so rare, that no one during this time recalled the original packaging. This is the only Plarail which packaging is unknown even until today. This set is estimated to be 70000 yen for an incomplete set as shown below. It is said that most Plarail collectors never heard of this set before, and the minority who knew about the set would go all the way to collect each individual junk condition piece to recreate the set. The house blocks, pink sakura tree and the 4 ranch girders are the ultimate rarities. This journey of collecting made many collectors cry on their blogs.

This is the first ever recorded English source of the Ranch Set, this post.

And finally the catalogue image of the ranch set. That took a long time to find. The catalogue itself is a phantom gem, where almost no surviving copies are kept. Someone excavated the only surviving copy today just 2 hours ago.

violater

Never seen before 2nd generation Red White Hikari-Go Set, 1968/1969 (we do not know exactly, but for sure 68/69 because of 2nd generation Red White Hikari-Go). Not found in Plarail Musuem. Our team and an allied warehouse owner will bid full force on this so prepare to see it's final price to be more than 60000 yen. We will win this for sure, so we declare a bid war here.

Super

I saw that one....go get em Vio

violater

We will not lose, for the sake of our research. If we win this, we will successfully obtain all 68/69 Red White Hikari-Go Sets in existence until an unknown one appears in the future.

violater

Oops, it is actually 1972, G-19. I did not see that side label. Red White 2nd Generation Hikari-Go was still manufactured in 1972, I overlooked it.

Super

Does that mean the Team is not going to pursue it anymore?

violater

Still will pursue, it is an unknown set not found in the internet when the set name is looked up. Must be out of the catalogue range.

violater

These ones too, they are basically the same sets but I'm not sure whether the cover design is different. The inner box is completely different.

It seems that they share the same box cover. However the change of generation in Red White Hikari-Go and the slope rails in the sets have set an assumption that:

The sets are reprinted.
It is a completely different set in the early 1960s and late 1960s.
It has a different box cover art.
However we are not able to confirm point 3. It seems that the set itself have different generations, because the TP-nn numbering systems are DIFFERENT from the previous set compared to new set. How we know that the TP-nn numbering system is different without the box cover? Its because the same TP-nn number has not been found on the 1st and 2nd generation Red White Hikari-Go 3 car sets (they have different numbers). The set is not reprinted, but point 2 is correct so far. The very possible reason why the interior box change:
1. To fit the newer contents better.
Produced from a different plant.
TOMIYAMA change name to TOMY in 1963, therefore blueprints of newer sets might have been slightly altered.

violater

We mentioned a blue box D-51, brown box D-51. Now there is a new one that surfaced just today, D-51 Yellow Box. All are 4th generation, which I repeat, is the hardest to obtain of all 10 generations today as they are only manufactured for only 2 years, if not 3 years depending on the model. This one could be close to 3 years.

Super

Wow, now that is a box design I have never seen, great find. 🙂

violater

Orange piers without claws.
On the left, we have number 24. On the right, no number.
The unnumbered version is what I recently bought, but it wasn't in the Plarail Museum. So I will add it here.

violater

Blue D-51 Kisha Set, that is the first time I have seen one. Not recorded in museum so far, it seems it was manufactured from 1970-1974. Lets include that here.

Super

Wow, that is a beautiful set. Would have been perfect if it had a blue Tender but still, I love those old box graphics.

violater

A tender did not exist for a D-51 at that time though. There is one for C-58.

Super

Have we discussed a Blue C-58 with Tender before? Seems familiar but I can't locate where the discussion and/or pictures are.

violater

Blue C-58 does not exist. A Blue D-51 of course exists, discussed in https://blueplastictracks.com/showthread.php?tid=4035&pid=47358#pid47358

Super

Vio wrote
A tender did not exist for a D-51 at that time though. There is one for C-58.

My mistake...I thought you were referring to a C-58 blue train above when we talked about the blue D-51 Kisha set.

So there hasn't been a blue Tender ever for any Steam train right?

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